president obama has deported more persons than any prior president. so i think that going forward certainly there will be the emphasis on the enforcement side, but i think that obama will spend some political capital on the issue of how these 11 million undocumented aliens can become on the path to citizenship. >> and as someone who knows that process, who knows the complicated paperwork, who knows the frustration of waiting for the bureaucracy, do you think it can be done, you can have a path to earned citizenship, which somebody comes forward, gets first a green card, legal status and then in line for citizenship. can that be done in a way that is fair or as fair as possible in the sense that if there is someone who has been waiting legally, will the people already in this country actually go to the back of the line? that's what a lot of people suspect won't happen. >> well, the senate proposal and president obama have both said they will go to the back of the line. that line in some instances is years long for family reunification. it is one of the